The real reason you keep repeating yourself is not unclear expectations, it is a lack of accountability. Lia walks through three concrete moves: working out of your task tracking system publicly, following up every single time, and communicating the “why” behind every process so your team actually buys in. This episode is especially useful for owners and leaders who feel like nothing sticks no matter how clearly they explain things.

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Mic drop moments

“I really, really think it’s worth reexamining our definition of a high-performing team and saying, we gotta have accountability first, because that’s the foundation that psychological safety sits on top.”

“…you’re not really an owner if you’re being told exactly the recipe and user manual of how to do your job.”

“This is how you create that flywheel across asking people for their ideas and perspectives, giving people freedom to explore and then rewarding the behavior.”

“…reframing accountability as ownership, and then reinforcing the ownership mindset on your team by creating psychological safety and trust and opportunities to contribute.”

Episode highlights

Accountability comes before psychological safety

Most leadership research points to psychological safety as the top signal of a high-performing team. Lia pushes back, not to dismiss it, but to argue that accountability is the foundation psychological safety sits on. If people do not know the expectations, they cannot safely give feedback, receive it, or flag risks. Get accountability right first, and psychological safety follows naturally.

Reframe accountability as ownership

The word “accountability” carries baggage: blame, punishment, being called out. Swap the frame. When people think of themselves as owners, being accountable feels like an opportunity, not a threat. Ownership means your perspective is valued, you are an equitable contributor, and you are included. That shift alone drives higher engagement, higher morale, and lower attrition.

Ask for input before you make the call

The first move is simple but easy to skip when you are moving fast: ask people for their ideas and perspectives before making decisions that affect them. Reassigning work, shuffling schedules, adding a new client without looping in the team chips away at the ownership mindset one small cut at a time. You do not need decision by committee. You need a genuine moment where you say, “Is there anything I might be missing here? I want to make sure I am leaning on your expertise.” Naming it out loud goes a long way. People who are asked to contribute feel accountable to contribute.

Give people the freedom to own the how

You are not really an owner if someone hands you a user manual and tells you to follow it step by step. Ownership shows up when a leader says, “Here is what success looks like. Now show me how you would approach it.” Lia shares a firsthand example: she was handed a diversity, equity, and inclusion program with minimal guardrails and told to build it from the ground up. Because she owned it end to end, she was proactive when things went sideways and came to her leader with problems already paired with potential solutions. The freedom created the accountability.

Spell out what ownership looks like, then reward it

Ownership mindset can feel abstract, which means leaders have to make it concrete. Set the expectation explicitly: being proactive, rolling up your sleeves, connecting dots across stakeholders, pinch-hitting when someone is out. Then when it comes time for feedback or a performance conversation, return to those exact behaviors. Recognize the moments you saw them. Address the gaps specifically. If you evaluate people only on output (lines of code, sales calls, tickets closed) and never on how they approached the work, they will optimize for output and ignore the ownership behaviors you actually need.

The flywheel in action

Lia closes with a real example from managing program managers. A team member described her job as “babysitting tasks.” Lia reframed the role as strategic partner and dot connector, then spelled out exactly what ownership looked like in that context: proactivity, surfacing risks early, making communication clearer. That framing became the basis for every subsequent feedback and performance conversation. Ask for input, give freedom to explore, reward the behavior. Run that loop consistently and the team starts to hum.

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This is how you create that flywheel across asking people for their ideas and perspectives, giving people freedom to explore and then rewarding the behavior. That’s how you see the ownership mindset show up fully from end to end on a team. This is going to transform your team. Welcome to the Managing Made Simple podcast, where I bring a decade of experience working in some of the most influential companies in tech to help you navigate the ins and outs of being a people manager.

From conflicts to feedback to delegating and more, we will leave no stone unturned when it comes to what makes us love managing, kind of hate it and everything in between. Doesn’t matter if you’re a new manager looking for some tips or a seasoned manager looking up their game. Everyone is welcome to hang out with Managing Made Simple. Let’s go. Let’s go, let’s go. Welcome back to the show and today’s an especially fun one for me because we’re talking about my favorite topic when it comes to team effectiveness managing.

And that is the ownership mindset because I will tell you the single biggest difference between high performing teams and low performing teams, and I’ve worked with a lot of teams in a lot of different environments, both in-house and as a consultant for a lot of lot of years. And the thing that sets apart the effective ones and the ones that are struggling are when teams have really embraced accountability. People hold themselves personally, account. And how that shows up is having an ownership mindset.

Now, I know the research on effective teams, and it talks about psychological safety being the single biggest factor that signals a high performing team. And I would argue, how can we have psychological safety if we don’t first have accountability? How can I be vulnerable? How can I speak up? How do I know it’s safe to make? If I don’t know what forums it’s safe to do that in, for example, I don’t feel safe to give feedback as a manager or as a team member if I don’t really know what the expectations are.

I certainly don’t feel safe receiving it if I don’t know what the expectations were. So this is a part of accountability. I don’t feel safe to make mistakes when I’m not really sure what the process is for. Talking about risks and mitigations and trade-offs and, and priorities, all the things that start to show up when we have accountability. I really, really think it’s worth reexamining our definition of a high-performing team and saying, we gotta have accountability first, because that’s the foundation that psychological safety sits on top.

And then we have all the good stuff that psychological safety unlocks. All right, back to accountability. Well, whenever I talk about it, the first thing I gotta do is reframe it because I know the words. God, a bad reputation. People associate it with blame and punishment and, and it has this negative whole like baggage around it. Instead of thinking of accountability as blame and punishment and all the bad stuff, I want us to think about accountability as ownership.

And when we think about it as ownership, we are excited to be accountable because when we’re owners in the workplace, that means our perspectives are valued. We’re an equitable contributor, we’re included. This is really, really important. This is what makes us feel like we can do our best. And then you got high engagement, high morale, low attrition, all the good stuff that you wanna see on your team. So the ownership mindset is so, so, And if you’re wondering, well, yeah, I get the gist, but what do I mean by the ownership mindset?

I wanted to share a few ways to really bring this out in people, and the first one is asking people for their inputs and ideas and perspectives. This one might sound obvious, it might sound, well, of course I do that, right, they’re on the team. But think about an example where you have to make a quick. You maybe reassign some people on some work to shuffle things around for a new priority. You change the days people are working.

You assign someone a new client just to move faster just to get it done. This can chip away at the ownership mindset because people weren’t included in figuring out is that the right call to be made? And it doesn’t mean making decision by committee. No, but it means you are creating moments for people to share their perspectives, weigh in before making a big decision, asking the team, is there anything I might be missing here? I wanna make sure I’m leaning on you and your expertise.

Even calling it out, naming it. That goes a really long way. And in return, we feel like owners, because we’ve been asked to step up as. And I see this a lot when I’m working with teams that have really, really strong cultures. I always look to see is that ownership mindset showing up? Because the answer is, you guessed it. Yes it is. When people are performing well, it’s because when there is a problem, people roll up their sleeves.

They’re proactive. They don’t have a, not my job attitude. They embrace an ownership mindset and in turn, that creates a more positive collaborative culture because everybody is bought in. Everybody’s on the same page, everybody has the same goal, but we sure as hell aren’t gonna feel that way if no one ever asked us to contribute. I know for me, when I have been asked to lead something or share my perspectives, Hey Leah, what do you think about this?

And, and give my. I say, wow, I really gotta show up because this person is counting on me to be that expert. The next thing that fosters an ownership mindset is giving people the freedom to explore and experiment. I mean, you’re not really an owner if you’re being told exactly the recipe and user manual of how to do your job. But we feel like owners, when someone says, Hey, here’s the expectations. Here’s what success looks like.

Now I wanna see you really step into. Tell me how you’d approach it, given your expertise and your skills and your knowledge and your background, that is where we can really step into that ownership role because we say, oh, okay, someone’s counting on me to bring my own flavor to this. Years ago, I was building a diversity equity inclusion program for a product team, and my manager said, Hey, you know, we’ve never built this before and here’s a couple things that we need to make sure we do meetings wise and events wise, but besides that, I really want you to own this.

And she took a step back and I was able to build it from the ground up. Not only that, I was able to represent that program myself to executive leadership across the company, build relationships based on being the owner of this program. And not only was this one of my best pieces of work that I did in many, many years, but I fully, fully embraced it When something would go wrong, I was proactive to figure it out.

When I was feeling stuck, I would come to my manager saying, Hey, here’s where I’m stuck, but here’s some ideas of how I think I can work through. I owned it end to end. And why was that? Because I was given the space to explore, to experiment, and really step into it fully. Third thing we wanna do to really cultivate that ownership mindset is to reward and recognize these behaviors. Ownership mindset can feel abstract. It can feel intangible.

It can be difficult to really quantify, is this even happening on the team, which is why we have to spell it out a little bit. I think it’s really useful to have conversations with team members, setting the tone, setting the expectation that we expect you to bring an ownership mindset. This means X, Y, Z, right? This means being proactive. This means rolling up your sleeves. This means when there is someone that’s getting stuck to jump in and collaborate.

This might mean pinch hitting for someone when they’re not around. What does it look like to be an owner? And when we spell it out up upfront, then we can reward them based on that. We don’t just reward based on number of lines of codes written or sales made or customer services calls had. No, we bring more into the conversation. We talk about the how. How did they approach the work? How did they bring this ownership mindset?

Because we already know that it’s going to elevate the team to higher performance. So we know we wanna see it, we know we wanna see more of it, but if we don’t explain how it shows up and how it’s rewarded, people are not gonna focus on it. Right. We do the things that we know we’re supposed to be doing, and we maybe go above and beyond sometimes, but if it is a core expectation of our job because we know that it makes the work better, then we wanna clearly articulate that.

So let me share an example to talk about what this looks like from setting expectations to then rewarding it. So I used to manage program managers, and one time someone came to me and said, I feel like my job is so tactical and administrative, almost like I’m babysitting tasks. And I said to the person, no, it’s concerning. If that’s how you feel about the work, then that’s probably the way that you approach it. And my expectation here is that.

You approach program management as an owner, you are a critical stakeholder, critical strategic partner in the work. You’re a dog connector, making sure that people understand what’s needed to get the project done. It’s not a babysitter. It’s really the glue between all of the different roles, all the different responsibilities. It makes sure that people know what’s expected of them, and she loved this framing because she had never thought about this way already. By planting the seed that I don’t see her as tactical.

I don’t see it as administrative, and I certainly don’t see it as babysitting. I started to help her shift this mindset. That was a little bit of the shift of the what, but now I had to address the how and how is where the ownership mindset came in. Saying now as a strategic partner, as someone that’s helping make communication more streamlined, surface risks, make things more clear, I really expect you to be proactive. Having your finger on the pulse of what’s going on in the project and raising things before they become a bigger issue.

Connecting the dots across stakeholders, looking for things that are not clear. That’s how I want you to. Because those are the activities that are going to reinforce that this is strategic work. That’s how I set the expectations. Now, when it came back to the performance discussion or feedback down the line, I could return to those expectations. Talked about proactivity, dot connecting, making things more clear. This was how she was going to be embodying this ownership mindset.

Now we’re saying, well, because I’m evaluating you on these things, let’s talk about how these things showed up. And in moments when I saw them, I’d recognize them and, and those would be reward. And when there were gaps, that’s what we talk about saying there was a gap in being proactive in the situation. We kinda waited till other people addressed it to to do something about it. That’s something we’re gonna need to fine tune. This is how you create that flywheel across, asking people for their ideas and perspectives, giving people freedom to explore and then rewarding the behavior.

That’s how you see the ownership mindset show up fully from end to end on a team. This is going to transform your team and if anything, If nothing else, I should say, it will make your job easier as a manager because people are stepping. When people are looking proactively to address problems before they get worse to find places, there are gaps that they can plug. When people are doing that, everybody is collectively bought to the success of your team, to the success of your company.

And you just see it is humming along like a well-oiled machine. This is why it’s my favorite, favorite topic. Reframing accountability as ownership, and then reinforcing the ownership mindset on your team by creating psychological safety and trust and opportunities to contribute and all the good things that make it happen. See you next. That’s all I have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in to the Managing Made Simple Podcast where my goal is to demystify the job of people management so that together we can make the workplace somewhere everyone can thrive.

I always love to hear from you, so please reach out at liagarvin.com or message me on LinkedIn. See you next time.

Questions this episode answers

What is an ownership mindset and why does it matter for team performance?

An ownership mindset means team members hold themselves personally accountable and approach their work the way an owner would, rolling up their sleeves, being proactive, and staying invested in outcomes rather than defaulting to a 'not my job' attitude. It matters because the single biggest difference between high-performing and struggling teams is whether people have truly embraced accountability. When people feel like owners, engagement goes up, morale improves, and attrition drops. It also creates the foundation that psychological safety sits on top of.

How do I get my team members to stop waiting to be told what to do and start taking initiative?

Start by asking people for their input before making decisions. Even when you need to move fast, pausing to ask the team 'is there anything I might be missing here?' signals that their expertise matters. Then give them room to figure out how to do the work, not just what to do. When someone knows you are counting on them to bring their own skills and judgment to a problem, they step up. Pair that with clearly naming ownership behaviors as a core expectation, and people will start to self-direct rather than wait.

How do I reward ownership mindset behaviors when they are hard to measure?

First, spell out what ownership looks like in concrete terms: being proactive, surfacing risks early, connecting dots across the team, jumping in when someone is stuck. Set those expectations upfront so the behaviors are not abstract. Then in performance conversations, return to those specific behaviors and talk through how they showed up or where there were gaps. Recognize them in the moment when you see them. You are essentially evaluating the how, not just the what, and that shift tells the team these behaviors are real priorities, not just nice-to-haves.

What's the difference between holding someone accountable and blaming them when something goes wrong?

Accountability reframed as ownership is the opposite of blame. Blame focuses on punishment after a failure. Ownership focuses on each person being an equitable contributor whose perspective is valued before, during, and after the work. When expectations are clear up front, including what success looks like and how the team handles risks and trade-offs, accountability becomes a shared standard everyone agreed to. That clarity is what makes it feel safe to raise problems and admit mistakes, rather than something people want to hide from.

How do I help a team member who sees their role as purely tactical start taking more ownership?

Start by reframing the role itself. If someone feels like they are just babysitting tasks, they will approach the work that way. Name the strategic value you actually see in what they do and describe the impact it has on the broader team. Then shift to the how: tell them specifically what ownership looks like in their role, things like raising issues before they escalate, connecting stakeholders, making expectations clearer for everyone. Once they understand they are being evaluated on those behaviors, not just task completion, they begin to see themselves as a strategic partner rather than an administrator.